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Re: Because I Know She Reads Here

Postby Navak on Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:09 pm

There is a difference between breaking NDA, and talking with a player about information that you wouldn't put beyond the realm of posting or a con answer.
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Re: Because I Know She Reads Here

Postby Zadie on Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:11 pm

Baelor wrote:
Reene wrote:there was other shit he did as well which made him an unprofessional events GM.

he made a lot of promises to players he shouldn't have made, ran a lot of events he shouldn't have run, then failed to write down or document the vast majority of what he did which put the remaining event GMs up a creek when it came time to pick up. went out of his way to show favoritism to certain players, occasionally breaking NDA to do so...

idk that on top of cybering people with Vorclaf makes him a creepy guy and not a great GM. even if he was good at being creative there was more to GMing than that.


Sounds kinna like your GM buddy now? Least with the NDA part and giving out info. There will always be favoritism its just part of the game. You want to RP with people you like, thats just a fact. I don't hold anything against GM so and so because they don't want to RP with me. Hey if you can make buddies with GMs great.


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Re: Because I Know She Reads Here

Postby Teeklin on Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:59 pm

On the one hand, who the fuck cares if two people are willingly cybering each other in the privacy of their own text-home? It's really none of my business and so I never cared one way or another.

On the other hand, just because these are former players and volunteers does not make them any less employees with responsibilites and rules to follow. Is it that hard to troll a random chat room to cyber with another dumb internet whore? Their job is to stay impartial and run events for everyone. If I were an events GM I would make it a point to run an event and note the people that were on the "outside" and then go in as another GMPC and run another side of it with them just so people knew that it was all totally roleplay and had nothing to do with friends or enemies or favoritism.

I think it's easy to lose sight of that when you start fucking around with some random game girls and talking to them all the time in IMs. All the GMs over all the years that I've been friends with and talked to, we always made it a point not to really talk about the game outside of my input on their ideas and their input on mine. The rest was talk about music or game events or other games or whatever. If I had talked every day about the shit they were working on I could definately understand people being pissed and them getting punished for it.
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Re: Because I Know She Reads Here

Postby Reene on Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:19 pm

Baelor wrote:
Reene wrote:there was other shit he did as well which made him an unprofessional events GM.

he made a lot of promises to players he shouldn't have made, ran a lot of events he shouldn't have run, then failed to write down or document the vast majority of what he did which put the remaining event GMs up a creek when it came time to pick up. went out of his way to show favoritism to certain players, occasionally breaking NDA to do so...

idk that on top of cybering people with Vorclaf makes him a creepy guy and not a great GM. even if he was good at being creative there was more to GMing than that.


Sounds kinna like your GM buddy now? Least with the NDA part and giving out info. There will always be favoritism its just part of the game. You want to RP with people you like, thats just a fact. I don't hold anything against GM so and so because they don't want to RP with me. Hey if you can make buddies with GMs great.


The GMs I know never told me anything they didn't also post on the boards or talk about at a convention or explicitly say "your job is to now go tell people about this." (Auriane specifically on that last one but I don't think I told much of anyone about that, and I'm fairly sure she had the okay from On High.)

I'm referring to things like a GM dropping a private hint to a certain player that Incinerate scrolls were about to be sold somewhere and he should hurry up and get there so he can buy them up.

For the rest, what Teeklin said sums up my opinion on the matter.
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Re: Because I Know She Reads Here

Postby Pureblade on Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:33 pm

Vaschon's events are the only ones I even remotely remember. Ice Festival to Sirolarn's execution to Treasonsists and then things sorta petered out then probably due to his firings.

The amount of roleplay offered was awesome and it made me actually feel like DR was a bit like a D&D game where the GM knew how to challenge people and carry a storyline as opposed to just stomping players when they got off a set in stone premade plot.

If favoritism means getting events that make the game fun for a dozen people and don't require days of everyone wandering aimlessly until someone gweths that they heard a goblin sneeze near a river and HEY HOPEFULLY THAT RELATES TO THE THING THAT RANDOMLY HAPPENED A MONTH AGO THAT I SAW HAPPEN, please get me more GM favoritism and hire extra GMs to give other players the same kind of favoritism.
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Re: Because I Know She Reads Here

Postby Reene on Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:47 pm

They definitely overcompensated for things after they got rid of Vaschon.

They need to realize that the ideal lies somewhere in the middle. Accountability and documentation without miles of red tape.
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Re: Because I Know She Reads Here

Postby Just_Drex on Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:20 pm

And here I was always told by GMs how it was so taboo and against the rules that there would never be anything like that even implied so I was happily surprised when it happened with Urwin, meaning an implied relationship. I'm not even gonna touch the whole cyber thing. Knowing other GMs tend to watch GMPCs that just gets a bit too weird.

However, I guess I understand now where the whole sleeping for a court position crap comes from. I don't care if Vaschon did it either. He was still the most fun events GM ever.
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Re: Because I Know She Reads Here

Postby illjill on Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:28 pm

They have to have sick stamina and charisma ranks which lures in the womenz.
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Re: Because I Know She Reads Here

Postby Zadie on Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:13 pm

illjill wrote:They have to have sick stamina and charisma ranks which lures in the womenz.


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Re: Because I Know She Reads Here

Postby Magrid on Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:04 am

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Re: Because I Know She Reads Here

Postby Pureblade on Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:01 pm

Just_Drex wrote:And here I was always told by GMs how it was so taboo and against the rules that there would never be anything like that even implied so I was happily surprised when it happened with Urwin, meaning an implied relationship. I'm not even gonna touch the whole cyber thing. Knowing other GMs tend to watch GMPCs that just gets a bit too weird.

However, I guess I understand now where the whole sleeping for a court position crap comes from. I don't care if Vaschon did it either. He was still the most fun events GM ever.


Wasn't it implied way way way before in the long ago time that Daython was dating some GMNPC?
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Re: Because I Know She Reads Here

Postby Reene on Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:47 pm

Pureblade wrote:
Just_Drex wrote:And here I was always told by GMs how it was so taboo and against the rules that there would never be anything like that even implied so I was happily surprised when it happened with Urwin, meaning an implied relationship. I'm not even gonna touch the whole cyber thing. Knowing other GMs tend to watch GMPCs that just gets a bit too weird.

However, I guess I understand now where the whole sleeping for a court position crap comes from. I don't care if Vaschon did it either. He was still the most fun events GM ever.


Wasn't it implied way way way before in the long ago time that Daython was dating some GMNPC?


Yes. Supposedly they even got bonded, and then it turned into some huge fiasco and they don't do it anymore. And now he's bonded to Skilair so I guess there's some justice in the world.

There's a separation in my mind between flirting and mild displays of affection and...well, crap that crosses the line I guess, with "serious" sexual overtones - and not because I'm necessarily bothered by that sort of thing, but because the issue of professionalism invariably comes up. The Urwin-Vanassa thing never crossed any serious lines in my mind; it was funny, they never did much more than snuggle and flirt openly afaik, and there was plenty of open communication between the two so it didn't cross a line into uncomfortable. Same with things like subtle Ealuik innuendo directed at Cael. It manages to be funny instead of creepy.
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Re: Because I Know She Reads Here

Postby Zeltaen on Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:09 pm

he ran events that i liked and AFAIK it isn't like he was some masked rapist putting roofies in anyone's Wizard.


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Re: Because I Know She Reads Here

Postby Phii on Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:45 pm

I want GMPCs to be sexy.
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Re: Because I Know She Reads Here

Postby Reene on Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:48 pm

Phii wrote:I want GMPCs to be sexy.


You just want Ealuik.

WELL TOO BAD, HE'S MINE. :smt018
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